Jeanette: Welcome to our Chicken to Duck talk podcast.
Jeanette: I'm Jeanette.
GiGi: I am Gigi, Zheng Xingzhi
Xiaoxin: I am Xin, Xiaoxin
Jeanette: We have a new guest today.
Jeanette: Welcome
Xiaoxin: Hello, everyone. Thank you.
Jeanette: So what can you tell us about what you're doing in Bristol?
Xiaoxin: Hello, everyone. I'm Xiaoxin.
Xiaoxin: I'm currently in Bristol.
Xiaoxin: Studying for my PhD in this.
Xiaoxin: And then my main line of research would be
Xiaoxin: English Language Teaching
Xiaoxin: I have nearly ten years of experience in teaching English in China.
Xiaoxin: So it's the University of the West of England in Bristol.
Xiaoxin: Working on my doctorate.
Jeanette: Okay, so what's your topic?
Xiaoxin: My topic is
Xiaoxin: It's about studying Chinese students and their anxiety about speaking English.
Xiaoxin: and then in their daily learning and living.
Xiaoxin: Adopt this English learning strategy to alleviate this speaking anxiety.
Jeanette: Yeah, so they're having a hard time learning English, right?
Jeanette: It's hard.
Xiaoxin: From my own learning experience in the past.
Xiaoxin: I think it's very rare that you'll ever get a chance to speak English.
Xiaoxin: What about when you become a teacher?
Xiaoxin: I've also found that even though
Xiaoxin: Because my students are college students.
Xiaoxin: Then our classroom conversation may be different from that of the previous secondary school.
Xiaoxin: We'll have more free time outside the classroom.
Xiaoxin: Although we often organize things like English Salon.
Xiaoxin: Activities like the English Corner
Xiaoxin: But I found out that the students, in fact
Xiaoxin: In these extracurricular hours.
Xiaoxin: It's not very confining in a classroom setting.
Xiaoxin: They're also less likely to open their mouths to communicate in English.
GiGi: Exactly
GiGi: Even I am teaching inside uni
GiGi: I am responsible for one of the modules called Interaction Design
GiGi: There are many international students,
GiGi: including Chinese students
GiGi: They come from everywhere,
GiGi: from Malaysia, Vietnam, Sri-Lanka,
GiGi: it can see that naturally,
GiGi: they come to a specific small group
GiGi: Very naturally,
GiGi: They just chat with other students from their own country
GiGi: I can see there are some invisible big walls between them
Jeanette: That's how it is when you're studying abroad.
Jeanette: I'm studying in Denmark.
Jeanette: I've made friends with people who look a lot like me in the beginning.
Jeanette: It's about making friends.
Jeanette: It's the Danes. They speak Danish.
Jeanette: I didn't speak Danish at that time.
Jeanette: That's why it's the most comfortable situation for me.
Jeanette: It's about being with someone else. Someone else like me.
Jeanette: Right?
Xiaoxin: Yes
GiGi: However, as a lecturer,
GiGi: I keep constantly feeling that I have the obligation to try to
GiGi: Because this wall is so thick,
GiGi: I try to using some methods
GiGi: Maybe when I am delivering the workshop duing the lectures
GiGi: I can make some activities to change it a little bit
GiGi: Is there any suggestion about how to make it easier for them to have some icebreakers?
Xiaoxin: Actually, that's what I'm doing.
Jeanette: Tell me about it.
Xiaoxin: So it is.
Xiaoxin: Personally, I think
Xiaoxin: In fact, the students have accumulated enough languages.
Xiaoxin: Because in China, for example.
Xiaoxin: Most of my students they will be from first grade.
Xiaoxin: English is introduced at the age of six or seven.
Xiaoxin: In fact, until they came to the university
Xiaoxin: Nearly ten years of experience in English language learning
Xiaoxin: That's why vocabulary and grammar are the basis of language.
Xiaoxin: Actually, there's no problem.
Xiaoxin: Why are you talking about the open bar?
Xiaoxin: I think it's more of a psychological thing.
Xiaoxin: I don't have the confidence to communicate in a foreign language.
Xiaoxin: Because there are other foreign language students in our program.
Xiaoxin: French-Japanese
Xiaoxin: I find that there is in fact a common problem.
Xiaoxin: It's what everyone reads and writes.
Xiaoxin: Including hearing, there's not much of a language barrier.
Xiaoxin: But about the spoken word.
Xiaoxin: I think it might still be one.
Xiaoxin: It's that obstacle in your mind that you can't get past.
Xiaoxin: I think I'm wrong.
Xiaoxin: That's what people don't understand.
Xiaoxin: Or maybe I'm just a little embarrassed.
Xiaoxin: It's a shame to think that way.
Xiaoxin: It's just a matter of getting over it.
Xiaoxin: Or don't worry too much about what people say about you.
Xiaoxin: It's about having the courage to say it.
Xiaoxin: Even if it's wrong.
Xiaoxin: If only there was a sense of confidence in the language.
Xiaoxin: I feel like I've taken the first step.
GiGi: We have been learning a new word, "SHE-SI"
GiGi: Social awkwardness
GiGi: I think this is also happening a lot when we are studying in the UK
GiGi: You are expecting that this is going to happen
GiGi: even if you are not talking
GiGi: You will encounter this kind of social awkwardness
GiGi: So when you study in the UK,
GiGi: have you been experiencing one of the most embarrassing experiences
GiGi: when you were studying in the UK?
Xiaoxin: That's two years this year.
Xiaoxin: It's in Bristol.
Xiaoxin: I don't think I've ever been in a situation where I've been too embarrassed.
Xiaoxin: But ten years ago.
Xiaoxin: I was at the University of York, too, when I was studying for my bachelor's degree.
Xiaoxin: That's how I felt at the time.
Xiaoxin: It's like you just said.
Xiaoxin: I'm trying to keep myself in that kind of circle as long as I can.
Xiaoxin: In a situation where you don't get shot.
Xiaoxin: So as far as possible.
Xiaoxin: For example, if there's a seminar in the class.
Xiaoxin: I'll try to make myself as transparent as possible.
Xiaoxin: Just don't look at me.
Xiaoxin: And then you don't want me to show it.
Xiaoxin: So that's how I felt at that time.
Xiaoxin: Obviously, there's no sense of confidence in the language.
Xiaoxin: Because it goes back to what I just said.
Xiaoxin: In fact, ten years ago, I thought the language foundation was sufficient.
Xiaoxin: Because after all, I'm able to come here to study.
Xiaoxin: And then I was in TESO English.
Xiaoxin: Well, we had a lot to live up to with that Yasi.
Xiaoxin: I was 8.5.
Xiaoxin: 8.5 Really?
Xiaoxin: Wow, that's high.
Xiaoxin: So, in fact, the language is basic.
Xiaoxin: I think it should be fine.
Xiaoxin: But why do you still feel like this?
Xiaoxin: It's an embarrassing learning experience.
Xiaoxin: I just don't have enough confidence in myself.
Xiaoxin: And then worry about my expression.
Xiaoxin: Whether it's the tone of voice or the accuracy of the words used.
Xiaoxin: I'm just worried that people won't understand what I'm saying.
Xiaoxin: But in the last couple of years, I've been thinking about going to Bristol in ten years.
Xiaoxin: That's a big change in how I feel.
Xiaoxin: I think this change may also have something to do with my own experience in teaching.
Xiaoxin: Because of these ten years of experience in this job.
Xiaoxin: I think the price-performance ratio is too low for us to learn English.
Xiaoxin: It's just a lot of time and effort.
Xiaoxin: However, students are still unable to express themselves fluently.
Xiaoxin: Then I'd like to do what I can to change things.
Xiaoxin: Well, the first step must be to start with me.
Xiaoxin: So what I'm saying now is that we just had a party yesterday.
Xiaoxin: We invited instructors to our Flat
Xiaoxin: We made them some Chinese food specialties.
Xiaoxin: And then we had a very smooth exchange during the process.
Xiaoxin: And then it's also natural that people might talk about more than just their own issues.
Xiaoxin: This academic environment for research topics
Xiaoxin: In such a scene of a gathering of friends like friends.
Xiaoxin: Actually, it's more about the life you want for each other.
Xiaoxin: Well, I don't think the process has been awkward for me.
Xiaoxin: Or to make myself transparent.
Xiaoxin: So I've made this comparison myself.
Xiaoxin: A comparison of the communication of this language 10 years ago and now.
Xiaoxin: I think the key is to speak up and overcome your anxiety.
Xiaoxin: It's the anxiety of speaking a foreign language that's the subject of my research.
Jeanette: It's the same for me. It's a question of confidence or youth.
Jeanette: When I was 20, I was embarrassed to speak foreign languages.
Jeanette: It's called now.
GiGi: I cannot imagine that you are in your twenty, and you feel very awkward about speaking English
GiGi: Because now you know about more than 50 languages
GiGi: It's actually very difficult for me to imagine that you are feeling embarrassed to talk about in a different language
Jeanette: Yes, when I was in Denmark, I felt the same way.
Jeanette: My friends think I'm a little strange.
Jeanette: So how can I speak Danish more smoothly or harder?
Jeanette: It's not like that now.
Jeanette: Now I have my own experience.
Jeanette: There's my job and so on.
Jeanette: So I have somewhere else to tell people I'm worth something.
GiGi: My experience of finishing my postgrad is that I cannot afford to be silent
GiGi: Does that make sense?
GiGi: I cannot afford to be silent because I only have like only one and a half year to study in the UK
GiGi: So if I try to live within 18 months, I fly across half the continents, half the planets and come to the UK
GiGi: And then I only have 18 months here
GiGi: If I don't use it to try to actually fit into the environment
GiGi: It doesn't actually make sense that I just stay in my comfort zone
GiGi: And then it doesn't worth it
GiGi: So simply I make the decision
GiGi: that I want to embarrass myself as much as possible
Jeanette: Is it that stressful?
GiGi: Kinda yes，because I am also consiering of my
GiGi: I think it's actually quite beneficial for my study
GiGi: This is also one of the things that I learned through the experience
GiGi: So if you continue to stay in China
GiGi: and then you don't put yourself in this very... something that you feel uncomfortable with
GiGi: that you will never changed
GiGi: So yeah, if you put yourself in this environment
GiGi: you will definitely adapt to this environment I assure
Jeanette: Now you think your English is good.
Xiaoxin: Of course not.
Xiaoxin: I'm confident that I'm exactly the same as Native Locals.
Xiaoxin: But I do think that the people I might be talking to are also very inclusive.
Xiaoxin: Just as he knows we are as foreign language learners.
Xiaoxin: That's why I don't always speak so well.
Xiaoxin: The other party can actually understand this meaning.
Xiaoxin: it doesn't matter
Xiaoxin: Yeah, so it probably boosted my confidence a little bit, too.
Xiaoxin: It's in the language.
Xiaoxin: I personally have a very interesting experience.
Xiaoxin: In fact, the real corpus environment of the language
Xiaoxin: We call it Authentic Language Environment
Xiaoxin: I think this kind of environment is good for students.
Xiaoxin: For an international student studying abroad.
Xiaoxin: In fact, we should try to expand this circle as much as possible.
Xiaoxin: It's not just the academic learning environment where teachers and professors are in discussion.
Xiaoxin: For example, I'm in the middle of my PhD program right now.
Xiaoxin: I'm going to be active in some of the activities at our school gym.
Xiaoxin: Because I personally like to exercise.
Xiaoxin: And then maybe four or five days a week I'd go to the gym.
Xiaoxin: Then I'd go for the Move Session.
Xiaoxin: It's this kind of organization.
Xiaoxin: Because I think you meet different people in different classrooms.
Xiaoxin: And then we'll talk.
Xiaoxin: And then during the intermission.
Xiaoxin: This is the kind of socializing that I find interesting.
Xiaoxin: For example, if I go to the gym.
Xiaoxin: Well, maybe there's more young people.
Xiaoxin: We'll talk about what to do with the diet.
Xiaoxin: It's a lot of protein.
Xiaoxin: And then this low-carbon one.
Xiaoxin: How do you go and eat fast food after chanting?
Xiaoxin: This is an interesting discussion.
Xiaoxin: It's actually a real prediction.
Xiaoxin: And then it's not about creating a language environment.
Xiaoxin: It's all about what people say.
Jeanette: But it's your hobby, right?
Xiaoxin: Yes
Xiaoxin: When it's combined with my hobbies.
Xiaoxin: I just think it's a very natural language environment.
Xiaoxin: Well, it's certainly the most natural one.
GiGi: I've been tempted to join the Quidditch team in here
GiGi: Cricket?
GiGi: Quidditch
Jeanette: Oh
GiGi: Yes, we have Quidditch team
GiGi: Do you know what Quidditch is?
Jeanette: Harry Potter (1962-), US actor and comedian
GiGi: Harry Potter
GiGi: Carrying a broomstick to play
Xiaoxin: (onom.) hahahaha
GiGi: No, I'm just joking
GiGi: But I am very tempted to join their team
GiGi: At least to take a watch at what is happening over there
GiGi: And also another is about horse riding
GiGi: Because somewhere inside the Glenside campus
GiGi: There are some specific grounds
Jeanette: A place for horseback riding
GiGi: Yes
Jeanette: What about our school, our university?
GiGi: Yes, exactly
Jeanette: I don't know.
Jeanette: enjoyable
GiGi: You can check out UWESport.
GiGi: Is there something interesting going on there?
GiGi: Is it a move session or a fitness class?
GiGi: I'm not certain anymore
GiGi: But if you visit our website, definitely go there
Jeanette: It's so much fun.
Jeanette: So that's what I think.
Xiaoxin: It's about having the courage to go out on a limb.
Xiaoxin: Comfort Circle Bar
Xiaoxin: And then you go as far as you can.
Xiaoxin: I've been talking to a lot of native speakers of this language.
Xiaoxin: Go talk to him more.
Xiaoxin: I think it's good.
Xiaoxin: When you go shopping, for example.
Xiaoxin: And then I learned a new expression last week.
Xiaoxin: Spoken
Xiaoxin: This is your cake
Xiaoxin: That's when I went to that clothing store.
Xiaoxin: And then a bunch of local girls.
Xiaoxin: And then they're best friends shopping together.
Xiaoxin: And then I thought it was funny.
Xiaoxin: And they said.
Xiaoxin: This is your cake
Xiaoxin: He seems to be saying
Xiaoxin: It's his kind of thing.
Xiaoxin: That's what he meant.
Xiaoxin: In fact, we have similar expressions in China.
Xiaoxin: This is yours.
Xiaoxin: Here's your robe.
Xiaoxin: Or maybe that's your thing.
Xiaoxin: I never asked.
Xiaoxin: But they
Xiaoxin: Yes, and then you're in the process of shopping.
Xiaoxin: You'll come across this expression
Xiaoxin: It's possible you're on the books
Xiaoxin: Or on some TV program.
Xiaoxin: I don't know if I'll ever meet one.
Xiaoxin: It's in this real-life context.
Xiaoxin: I think it's interesting.
Xiaoxin: That is, even though they are two different languages.
Xiaoxin: Chinese and English
Xiaoxin: But I think it's the same thing.
Xiaoxin: That's what we say in Chinese.
Xiaoxin: We have a lot in common.
Jeanette: Yes
Xiaoxin: They will say "This is your cake"
Xiaoxin: Oh sweet
Xiaoxin: This is your cake
Xiaoxin: Oh, that's interesting.
Jeanette: You can hear me.
GiGi: When you meet some friends
GiGi: new friends in Bristol
GiGi: maybe they came from our own country
GiGi: or maybe they are local in here
GiGi: Do you see is
GiGi: there are more similarities between them
GiGi: because we don't talk
GiGi: We don't talk to each other
GiGi: So it's that
GiGi: after you actually meet them
GiGi: because we have been talking about the fears
GiGi: and then when we meet someone new
GiGi: is that we are being conquered by our fear
GiGi: of he is very different from us
GiGi: we don't want to communicate with them
GiGi: So after you actually
GiGi: getting familiar with them
GiGi: Do you see more differences
GiGi: or see more similarities between them
Xiaoxin: You mean
GiGi: I don't know
Jeanette: Here's what you think.
Jeanette: Actually, it is.
Jeanette: What's the difference between China and England?
Jeanette: Or something.
Xiaoxin: Cross-Culture
Jeanette: It's because sometimes
Jeanette: Some people think
Jeanette: That's a big difference.
Jeanette: It's so different.
Jeanette: But somewhere else.
Jeanette: When I was in China.
Jeanette: I found so many.
Jeanette: Something very similar.
Jeanette: It's not that big of a difference.
Xiaoxin: That's how I feel.
Xiaoxin: Actually, if you're talking about using the country to
Xiaoxin: To differentiate between people.
Xiaoxin: The difference, I think, is
Xiaoxin: Not quite.
Xiaoxin: Because everyone
Xiaoxin: He's got his own personality.
Xiaoxin: It's like the popular
Xiaoxin: Person E Person I
Xiaoxin: It's his different personality.
Xiaoxin: Well, I'm actually feeling it personally.
Xiaoxin: It's us, like the students in China.
Xiaoxin: Friends of China
Xiaoxin: He's got a bit of a personality, too.
Xiaoxin: Like everyone together.
Xiaoxin: Over afternoon tea.
Xiaoxin: Well, there's one person who might.
Xiaoxin: More talkative
Xiaoxin: A little more talkative.
Xiaoxin: Then there are those who he may be more
Xiaoxin: It's a kind of listener.
Xiaoxin: He'll just be more willing.
Xiaoxin: Listen to the expression of others.
Xiaoxin: That's why every one of them is actually
Xiaoxin: He's got a personality of his own.
Xiaoxin: So I found you, for example.
Xiaoxin: Like I was saying at the gym.
Xiaoxin: Because of the two years we've spent together.
Xiaoxin: And then there's a lot of them in the gym.
Xiaoxin: We're talking about old acquaintances.
Xiaoxin: We're all familiar with it.
Xiaoxin: Well, I found out that they're actually from England.
Xiaoxin: He's got some not-so-healthy people, too.
Xiaoxin: Not so much for him either.
Xiaoxin: Special De-Active
Xiaoxin: To talk to you.
Xiaoxin: But if you're a guest.
Xiaoxin: During the intermission
Xiaoxin: He's interested in one thing or another.
Xiaoxin: He'll come over and talk to you himself.
Xiaoxin: Well, I think this one.
Xiaoxin: It's a way of getting along with each other.
Xiaoxin: He's actually related to the country.
Xiaoxin: I think
Xiaoxin: It's every country.
Xiaoxin: Of course he will have some mainstream
Xiaoxin: Or his kind of
Xiaoxin: And the culture of this country.
Xiaoxin: Some of the related
Xiaoxin: Folklore, and then everyone else's.
Xiaoxin: Lifestyle.
Xiaoxin: There are certain factors that can make a difference
Xiaoxin: But I feel that people are not the same as each other.
Xiaoxin: It's still personal.
Xiaoxin: Personality may
Xiaoxin: More relevant
Xiaoxin: For example, I've encountered
Xiaoxin: I have a friend. His name is Juanna.
Xiaoxin: He's very talkative.
Xiaoxin: And then he's right.
Xiaoxin: Different cultures
Xiaoxin: I'm interested.
Xiaoxin: Well, some of them might not be.
Xiaoxin: care
GiGi: Personally,
GiGi: before I come to the UK
GiGi: I am extremely introvert
GiGi: I can stay at home for
GiGi: more than three months
GiGi: Without going out, Maybe just like that
GiGi: After I come here
GiGi: I completely
GiGi: 360 degrees of changes
GiGi: Because I know that
GiGi: If I stay at my accommodation
GiGi: Not going out
GiGi: You mentioned you want to make
GiGi: the most of the
GiGi: Why you are end up here
GiGi: Why do you come here to study
GiGi: Why just stay in China to just
GiGi: work on my stuff
GiGi: It doesn't make sense at all
GiGi: As you can see now I am less introvert
GiGi: than before because my profession
GiGi: and also the environment
GiGi: changed me
GiGi: so, because,
GiGi: Yeah,
GiGi: My characteristics changed
GiGi: I don't categorise myself
GiGi: Whether I am
GiGi: Person E or Person I
GiGi: Because our characteristics changed
GiGi: So go with the flow
GiGi: And then suit yourself into the environment
Jeanette: But move to another country.
Jeanette: You can too.
Jeanette: Change yourself.
Jeanette: You're Extrovert.
Jeanette: Or Introvert
Xiaoxin: Well, I'm curious too.
Xiaoxin: Because you're one now.
Xiaoxin: You're very outgoing because of you.
Xiaoxin: A little bit of pressure on myself.
Xiaoxin: Just force yourself to say.
Xiaoxin: Make the most of your year and a half.
Xiaoxin: To improve my diction.
Xiaoxin: Or maybe it's just communication.
Xiaoxin: When you go back to your country.
Xiaoxin: Will I be human again?
GiGi: No, I would not
GiGi: Because it's already like
GiGi: Yeah, I don't
GiGi: put the
GiGi: Sometimes I do miss that
GiGi: The introvert part of me
GiGi: I like the time that
GiGi: I like the isolation time
GiGi: I like to just be myself
GiGi: And then just do my things
GiGi: Being a nerd,
GiGi: I like that, I enjoy it
GiGi: But at the same time
GiGi: I can also see that
GiGi: It's also not benefiting me
Jeanette: But you.
Jeanette: Just make a note.
Jeanette: At home you can
Jeanette: Meet your friends.
Jeanette: It's your own arrangement.
Jeanette: I'd say so.
GiGi: I would consider the extrovert part is actually benefiting me
GiGi: No matter for
GiGi: my friendship
GiGi: And for my work
GiGi: It's also I can benefit
GiGi: from being an extrovert
GiGi: So I embrace it
GiGi: And then I would consider
GiGi: Being an extrovert
GiGi: is a skill set
GiGi: It's a skill set I need to master
GiGi: And then
GiGi: So yeah, I don't really want to
GiGi: Keep myself in this comfort zone
GiGi: This is not going to benefit me
GiGi: So this is my
Jeanette: It's great. It's great.
Jeanette: congratulations
Jeanette: We've got other things to talk about, too.
Jeanette: We'd like to know too.
Jeanette: It's because you're in China.
Jeanette: You're a college teacher.
Jeanette: You're one now.
Jeanette: I'm also a student here.
Jeanette: Or a doctoral student.
Jeanette: You've studied too.
Jeanette: Some languages
Jeanette: So you know.
Jeanette: Learn a Language
Jeanette: What's it like?
Jeanette: What's the process?
Jeanette: You can talk to us.
Jeanette: What's the difference?
Jeanette: Teaching Language in China
Jeanette: Teaching Languages in England
Jeanette: Or in the UK
Jeanette: Courses
Jeanette: What's the difference?
Xiaoxin: First of all, I think
Xiaoxin: Your audience.
Xiaoxin: This kind of person.
Xiaoxin: There's a big difference in quantity.
Xiaoxin: Well, that's actually a very objective question.
Xiaoxin: Because you're like
Xiaoxin: Our Chinese
Xiaoxin: broad
Xiaoxin: For public schools
Xiaoxin: The number of students in the class is relatively large.
Xiaoxin: That's true.
Xiaoxin: Of course our teachers are.
Xiaoxin: Especially the language teachers.
Xiaoxin: We all want every child to be able to
Xiaoxin: More opportunities to network
Xiaoxin: But the truth is, we have a class.
Xiaoxin: 45 minutes.
Xiaoxin: Time is very limited.
Xiaoxin: In that class.
Xiaoxin: For example, the class I'm leading right now is generally
Xiaoxin: It's 35 to 45.
Xiaoxin: With such a number of people
Xiaoxin: You couldn't have done it in 45 minutes.
Xiaoxin: It's all about getting everyone to say.
Xiaoxin: This is actually
Xiaoxin: I'm not sure I can make it happen.
Xiaoxin: the reason why
Xiaoxin: In the case of China, we're in
Xiaoxin: There may be more time in the classroom.
Xiaoxin: It would be kind of teacher centered
Xiaoxin: Yes
Xiaoxin: It is to take the teacher's
Xiaoxin: This lecture-oriented
Xiaoxin: Of course, because now
Xiaoxin: the times
Xiaoxin: That's why we're now a Digital Campus.
Xiaoxin: Digital education
Xiaoxin: So this also gives us the language
Xiaoxin: Facilities for Teachers
Xiaoxin: Then we'll make full use of the second class.
Xiaoxin: It's just that even though I'm in the classroom, I don't know what I'm doing.
Xiaoxin: 45 minutes is all we have.
Xiaoxin: But I'll leave a lot.
Xiaoxin: This kind of task gives students
Xiaoxin: And then after school.
Xiaoxin: Let them students
Xiaoxin: with students
Xiaoxin: Including teacher-student
Xiaoxin: This is the kind of communication we can put on these threads.
Xiaoxin: Like what we're doing right now.
Xiaoxin: Podcast
Xiaoxin: Then the students themselves can go to the exhibition.
Xiaoxin: Some of these language activities
Xiaoxin: And then it goes on to say.
Xiaoxin: From England.
Xiaoxin: I'm actually on my own here.
Xiaoxin: Observations of the students on this side of the fence.
Xiaoxin: Class capacity is
Xiaoxin: A little less.
Xiaoxin: He's probably got a dozen people in his class.
Xiaoxin: That's my observation.
Xiaoxin: Some language classes
Xiaoxin: It's for those students.
Xiaoxin: Some language classes he might be able to take.
Xiaoxin: A little less.
Xiaoxin: Class time is reserved for
Xiaoxin: The student's his this
Xiaoxin: The time for communication will
Xiaoxin: More.
Xiaoxin: In addition to this kind of activity
Xiaoxin: I think it's the same.
Xiaoxin: It's worth learning because
Xiaoxin: In fact, this semester we are basically
Xiaoxin: There are no more classes but in the last year
Xiaoxin: We'll have some training sessions during the day.
Xiaoxin: It's about the method.
Jeanette: Yes, it's yours.
Jeanette: A Doctor of Education
Jeanette: Yes, there are some courses.
Xiaoxin: That's true.
Xiaoxin: I just said I'm a multiple. - Then I am.
Xiaoxin: I'm actually in China.
Xiaoxin: I also teach this class.
Xiaoxin: I came here as a student.
Xiaoxin: This course is about research methodology.
Xiaoxin: I'm in China. I'll teach too.
Xiaoxin: My student research methodology is, after all
Xiaoxin: Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL)
Xiaoxin: English language teaching so
Xiaoxin: That's what I find so interesting.
Xiaoxin: Ehm...
Xiaoxin: His teacher will.
Xiaoxin: Of course, every teacher has his or her own style of teaching.
Xiaoxin: Then I've learned a lesson.
Xiaoxin: It's important. I think it's interesting.
Xiaoxin: Teaching is
Xiaoxin: learn in practice
Xiaoxin: It is because the research method is actually a relatively
Xiaoxin: The more boring one
Xiaoxin: One subject
Xiaoxin: Well, if you're just
Xiaoxin: Go to the student and give him a lot of
Xiaoxin: If you talk about such theoretical things.
Xiaoxin: It's actually one thing.
Xiaoxin: I think it's boring. Secondly, it's
Xiaoxin: It's hard to really
Xiaoxin: realize
Xiaoxin: And then not to mention transporting it.
Xiaoxin: So we might as well be in the classroom
Xiaoxin: Just more activities like
Xiaoxin: We are interested in this interview design
Xiaoxin: How are you going to design this?
Xiaoxin: Fang, I'll talk.
Xiaoxin: After a little bit.
Xiaoxin: And then the teacher, he'd give it to me.
Xiaoxin: Each group will be given a recording pen.
Xiaoxin: And then let's get everyone to come.
Xiaoxin: Go in this way.
Xiaoxin: The process of practicing to realize that the
Xiaoxin: That's the point I was making.
Xiaoxin: How do you go about it? For example, when we talk.
Xiaoxin: We're gonna start off with a greeting.
Xiaoxin: Then we cut to the chase.
Xiaoxin: And then how you'll be able to do it later.
Xiaoxin: That's when
Xiaoxin: When your interviewee he
Xiaoxin: It's not about your language.
Xiaoxin: How do you pull it back?
Xiaoxin: It's just some theoretical stuff.
Xiaoxin: But in practice we can go
Xiaoxin: Utilizes
Xiaoxin: To practice and then to deepen.
Xiaoxin: To his understanding so
Xiaoxin: This is actually
Xiaoxin: It's not just about learning a subject. You just said that.
Xiaoxin: It's all about language instruction.
Xiaoxin: What's in China and what's over here?
Xiaoxin: I think if you put it in the
Xiaoxin: The words in this teaching of language
Xiaoxin: Maybe I will.
Xiaoxin: More focus on time in the classroom
Xiaoxin: Let the students go and practice it practice
Xiaoxin: doing
Xiaoxin: I think it's more likely than not.
Xiaoxin: In this language.
Xiaoxin: Output
Xiaoxin: Then let the students
Xiaoxin: To acquire knowledge of this theory.
Xiaoxin: It might be more effective.
Xiaoxin: Uh-huh.
Jeanette: What about now?
Jeanette: A lot of new
Jeanette: Are you studying the right way?
Jeanette: So now it's because
Jeanette: Internet or something else.
Jeanette: Artificial intelligence can also go
Jeanette: A ChatGPT
Jeanette: Or in Chinese
Xiaoxin: So now there's a new subject.
Xiaoxin: Also belongs to
Xiaoxin: interdisciplinary
Xiaoxin: The textbook is called computer assisted.
Xiaoxin: language learning
GiGi: Yes, we are using
GiGi: artificial intelligence
GiGi: Because I am designing
GiGi: the next
GiGi: Academy year learning experience
GiGi: So I have been trying to like how to put
GiGi: the discipline about artificial intelligence
GiGi: When you should avoid to use them
GiGi: Prohibit to use them or something like that
GiGi: It's also causing a lot of challenges
GiGi: for academic
Xiaoxin: The traditional class
Jeanette: Yes, but for me.
Jeanette: artificial intelligence (AI)
Jeanette: You can help me.
Jeanette: Write better
Jeanette: For me it was.
Jeanette: Articles in Chinese
Jeanette: Because when I wrote it.
Jeanette: I'm not sure.
Jeanette: Okay, then.
Jeanette: Ask ChatGPT
Jeanette: My good friend ChatGPT
Jeanette: Ask him if it's okay.
Jeanette: He told me you're good at Chinese.
Jeanette: And then he told me.
Jeanette: There's one.
Jeanette: small place
GiGi: Yes
GiGi: Yes, for next year I will be coming the
GiGi: academic
GiGi: personal tutor
GiGi: So I'm just branding myself
GiGi: ChatAPT
Jeanette: fantastic
Jeanette: Yeah, ChatGPT is ours.
Jeanette: Academic Personal Tutor
GiGi: That's my responsibility
GiGi: I think it also works in the same way
GiGi: Just like GPT
GiGi: is the one that they ask if I'm
GiGi: not here
GiGi: And the APT I'm here
Jeanette: Okay
Jeanette: So,
Jeanette: What else do you have to say?
Jeanette: I want to share it with us.
Xiaoxin: Other topics
Xiaoxin: At the moment it seems like
Xiaoxin: No, it's not.
Jeanette: well, well, well.
Jeanette: It's particularly interesting.
Jeanette: Especially with you.
Jeanette: chats
Jeanette: I'll talk about that, too.
Jeanette: It's funny because of you.
Jeanette: It's so great to be here now.
Jeanette: You can chat.
Jeanette: Thank you for coming.
Jeanette: Our Podcast
GiGi: Thank you, sir.
Xiaoxin: Nice to meet you all.